{"id":1799,"date":"2019-03-09T16:11:45","date_gmt":"2019-03-09T15:11:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.vehiculesanciens-airbuspalays.fr\/?p=1799"},"modified":"2019-03-11T19:59:30","modified_gmt":"2019-03-11T18:59:30","slug":"09-fevrier-2019-demontage-2-2-2-3-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.vehiculesanciens-airbuspalays.fr\/?p=1799","title":{"rendered":"05 Mars 2019 &#8211; Matra530 &#8211; Avanc\u00e9es moteur"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bonjour aux amateurs de belles vieilles m\u00e9caniques,<\/p>\n<p>Merci aux acteurs de ce nouvel \u00e9pisode qui a vu la premi\u00e8re participation de G\u00e9rard (Cassette) \u00e0 une session &#8220;moteur&#8221;. G\u00e9rard est \u00e0 n&#8217;en pas douter une super recrue pour la section VA car il poss\u00e8de plein de cordes \u00e0 son arc de restaurateur&#8230;<br \/>\nDes news de Patrick absent de cette session car convalescent suite \u00e0 son \u00e9pisode hospitalier:<br \/>\nque je sache tout va bien et il ne lui reste qu&#8217;\u00e0 \u00eatre patient qques semaines sans forcer avant de nous revenir \u00e0 donf dans l&#8217;aventure, bon courage \u00e0 lui!<\/p>\n<p>Gr\u00e2ce \u00e0 son exp\u00e9rience de la m\u00e9canique fine des instruments et en utilisant divers microm\u00e8tres (perso \u00e0 moi et de Bruno Wuillermoz, merci Bruno!) Blaise a fait la m\u00e9trologie fine (= typique +\/- 0.01mm) des diff\u00e9rents diam\u00e8tres du vilebrequin au niveau des 3 paliers et des manetons de bielles, ainsi que des 2 arbres (\u00e0 cames et d&#8217;\u00e9quilibrage).<br \/>\nLe but \u00e9tait d&#8217;\u00e9valuer l&#8217;\u00e9tat d&#8217;usure de ces \u00e9l\u00e9ments pour juger du besoin de r\u00e9-usinage en atelier sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9<br \/>\nConclusion : comme toujours Blaise a fait de tr\u00e8s bonnes mesures, pr\u00e9cises et r\u00e9p\u00e9tables et tout est OK, les 3 arbres sont en bon \u00e9tat et on peut se contenter de remplacer les coussinets de bielles et des paliers du vilo.<br \/>\nEn ce qui concerne les bagues des paliers d&#8217;arbres \u00e0 cames et de l&#8217;arbre d&#8217;\u00e9quilibrage dans le bloc il faut encore creuser mais il est probable qu&#8217;au moins une de l&#8217;arbre d&#8217;\u00e9quilibrage soit \u00e0 changer car \u00e9caill\u00e9e&#8230;Cette op\u00e9ration sera \u00e0 faire r\u00e9aliser par un atelier sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9 qui r\u00e9al\u00e9sera pour obtenir la valeur du jeu sp\u00e9cifi\u00e9, versus l&#8217;arbre (dixit Alain).<\/p>\n<p>Le reste de l&#8217;activit\u00e9 s&#8217;est concentr\u00e9 sur le nettoyage des conduits de refroidissement des blocs moteur, culasses et collecteur d&#8217;admission, d&#8217;abord par grattage patient (merci Nicolas et G\u00e9rard) de ce qui \u00e9tait accessible puis nettoyage violent au Karcher (le mien perso). La couleur du jus qui s&#8217;est \u00e9coul\u00e9 en abondance pendant qques temps des divers trous a confirm\u00e9 que cela n&#8217;\u00e9tait pas un luxe, par contre il doit rester encore des r\u00e9sidus + rouille \u00e0 enlever. Je m&#8217;interroge sur la m\u00e9thode, probablement par trempage AD, certains le sugg\u00e8rent sur le web \u00e0 l&#8217;acide chlorhydrique dilu\u00e9, si qqu&#8217;un a des suggestions je suis demandeur&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Par ailleurs le trempage du carter de distribution a \u00e9t\u00e9 efficace et cela permis d&#8217;en d\u00e9monter la pompe \u00e0 eau, bien vu Patrick qui avait lanc\u00e9 le trempage la semaine pass\u00e9e.<\/p>\n<p>Enfin G\u00e9rard a fait une tr\u00e8s bonne photo d&#8217;un al\u00e9sage qui montre bien le besoin de d\u00e9gla\u00e7age&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>En synth\u00e8se sur l&#8217;\u00e9tat observ\u00e9 \u00e0 ce jour de l&#8217;ensemble moteur-boite on peut a priori pr\u00e9voir, principalement:<br \/>\n\u2022 faire blanchir les port\u00e9es de joint des 2 culasses par un atelier sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9 du style &#8220;Bastide&#8221; \u00e0 Montaudran<br \/>\n\u2022 conclure sur le besoin ou non de remplacer AD guides de soupapes par un atelier sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9<br \/>\n\u2022 roder nous-m\u00eames les soupapes (kit \u00e0 approvisionner)<br \/>\n\u2022 faire d\u00e9glacer les 4 cylindres dans un atelier sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9, \u00e0 moins que Seb ne poss\u00e8de l&#8217;outil pour un al\u00e9sage de 90 mm?<br \/>\n\u2022 faire remplacer-al\u00e9ser les bagues AD arbre d&#8217;\u00e9quilibrage dans le bloc<br \/>\n\u2022 remplacer les coussinets des paliers du vilo et des t\u00eates de bielles<br \/>\n\u2022 remplacer les segments<br \/>\n\u2022 remplacer bien s\u00fbr tous les joints moteur et seulement celui (Spi) de sortie de boite<br \/>\n\u2022 pr\u00e9parer et peindre les blocs moteur \/ culasses \/ boite<br \/>\n\u2022 d\u00e9monter \/ nettoyer le carbu et remplacer tous les \u00e9l\u00e9ments du kit standard \u00e0 approvisionner<br \/>\n\u2022 d\u00e9monter-nettoyer-r\u00e9viser l&#8217;allumeur<br \/>\n\u2022 remplacer la pompe \u00e0 eau, la pompe \u00e0 huile<br \/>\n\u2022 r\u00e9viser la pompe \u00e0 essence<br \/>\n\u2022 le radiateur de refroidissement est \u00e0 restaurer par une soci\u00e9t\u00e9 sp\u00e9cialis\u00e9e, l\u2019\u00e9tat de celui de chauffage est \u00e0 voir, au moins par un trempage a la lessive st Marc. Alain a sugg\u00e9r\u00e9 St Jory radiateurs,\u00e0 moins d\u2019une autre bonne suggestion?<br \/>\n\u2022 Il y aura aussi une grosse activit\u00e9 de r\u00e9fection des nombreux tuyaux de refroidissement et de chauffage, \u00e0 inventorier dans un premier temps<br \/>\nJe pr\u00e9parerai une liste xls des travaux \u00e0 pr\u00e9voir-planifier en compl\u00e9ment de celui des appros que je vous ai d\u00e9j\u00e0 transmis et qui \u00e9volue bien s\u00fbr.<\/p>\n<p>Voili voilou, avec qques photos de mardi ci-jointes.<\/p>\n<p>La suite en ce qui me concerne et avec au moins Blaise mardi 12 mars apr\u00e8s-midi. avec a priori un programme (au max) \u00e0 moduler en fonction des personnes et dispo mat\u00e9riel :<br \/>\n\u2022 \u00c9valuation jeux guides soupapes et arbre \u00e9quilibrage pour conclusion sur besoin remplacement-usinage<br \/>\n\u2022 examen \u00e9tat conduits de refroidissement des blocs + culasses et conclusion sur besoin trempage<br \/>\n\u2022 si pas de trempage d\u00e9gla\u00e7age des cylindres si on a l&#8217;outil<br \/>\n\u2022 d\u00e9montage \u00e9toile fixation ventilateur sur radiateur<br \/>\n\u2022 d\u00e9montage \/ examen radiateur chauffage pour d\u00e9cision travaux<br \/>\n\u2022 revue tableur appros moteur<br \/>\n\u2022 regroupement des pi\u00e8ces associ\u00e9es au label &#8220;moteur-boite &amp; p\u00e9riph\u00e9riques&#8221; pour que l&#8217;inventaire soit exhaustif<br \/>\n\u2022 brainstorming sur travaux \u00e0 pr\u00e9voir<\/p>\n<p>A bient\u00f4t pour de nouvelles aventures,<\/p>\n<p>Amiti\u00e9s m\u00e9caniques<br \/>\nR\u00e9mi<\/p>\n<style id=\"bwg-style-0\">    #bwg_container1_0 #bwg_container2_0 .bwg-container-0.bwg-standard-thumbnails {      width: 1264px;              justify-content: center;        margin:0 auto !important;              background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.00);            padding-left: 4px;      padding-top: 4px;      max-width: 100%;            }        #bwg_container1_0 #bwg_container2_0 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